From rayling@xwdev.pandc.rta.oz.au Tue Jun 15 02:49:35 1993 Received: from joyce.cs.su.OZ.AU by eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (5.65b/1.53) id AA09507; Tue, 15 Jun 93 02:49:35 +0200 Message-Id: <9306150049.AA09507@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl> Received: from xwdev.pandc.rta.oz.au (for eb.ele.tue.nl) with MHSnet; Tue, 15 Jun 1993 10:52:01 +1000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 10:49:01 +1000 From: rayling@pandc.rta.oz.au (Russell Ayling) To: wjw@eb.ele.tue.nl Subject: Apollo FAQ - monitors info. Status: OR I compiled this info a while ago from an HP source plus bits and pieces I picked up. There are frequent questions about the monitors (esp. frequency) so maybe this, or part of it, could go in the FAQ. (I've mailed this out many times already, it would be easier to just refer people to the FAQ.) Anyway, here it is, do what you like with it: Colour Apollo monitors. Colour Apollo monitors. Part numbers: 007284R 15" 1024x800 60Hz 008398-001R 19" 1024x800 Northern hemisphere 008398-005R 19" 1024x800 Southern hemisphere 010700-001R 19" 1280x1024 68Hz Northern hemisphere 010700-004R 19" 1280x1024 68Hz Southern hemisphere 010700-005R 19" 1280x1024 70Hz Northern hemisphere 010700-006R 19" 1280x1024 70Hz Southern hemisphere Note: 1280x1024 "F" graphics cards support 68Hz and 70Hz by jumper selection. (A 70Hz monitor will run at 68Hz, but the image will be slightly narrower than the screen display limits.) 15" 1024x800 19" 1024x800 19" 1280x1024 -------------- ------------ ----------------- Size 16" 20" 20" (15" diagonal (19" d.m.) (19" d.m.) measure) CRT type Matsushita Matsushita Matsushita 38JFG36X/B 48JFJ50X/B J2P36X Dot trio pitch 0.31mm 0.32mm 0.26mm Phosphor Medium Medium Medium short persistance P22 persistance P22 persistance P22 Electron gun: Precision inline Convergence: Self convergence Deflection angle: 90 degrees Deflection yoke: Matsushita Type SST Following specifications apply to the 15" and 19" 1024x800 monitors: Resolution 1024x800 (noninterlaced) Scanning frequency range Horizontal 50.2 kHz (+/- 500Hz) Vertical 47 to 80 Hz Blanking time Horozontal 4.713 usec maximum Vertical 828.83 usec max (15") 831 usec max (19") Retrace time Horozontal 3.713 usec max Vertical 600 usec max Video amplifier bandwidth +/- 3dB form 50Hz to 70MHz minimum pulse rise and fall time 5 nanosec (max) measured from 10% to 90% differential tilt not more than 3% on blanking waveforms video polarity Positive for Peak Luminance of the CRT video gain no perceptible change at any brightness setting when a 15nsec pixel is written adjacent to a 60nsec bar Degauss duration < 15 sec type Automatic at power on X-Ray radiation < 0.5 MR/H Horozontal frequency Duration: 19.794 usec (50.519 kHz) front porch 0.942 usec sync 1.88 usec back porch 1.88 usec blanking 4.71 usec display area 15.084 usec Vertical frequency Duration: 16.67 usec (60.0 kHz) front porch 79.176 usec sync 79.176 usec back porch 673.0 usec blanking 828.83 usec (15") 831 usec (19") display area 15.841 usec (15") 15.839 usec (19") Note: Apollo 1024x800 color graphics boards use a horozontal frequency of 50.519 kHz, vertical frequency of 60Hz usec = microseconds Part numbers: 007284R 15" 1024x800 60Hz 008398-001R 19" 1024x800 Northern hemisphere 008398-005R 19" 1024x800 Southern hemisphere 010700-001R 19" 1280x1024 68Hz Northern hemisphere 010700-004R 19" 1280x1024 68Hz Southern hemisphere 010700-005R 19" 1280x1024 70Hz Northern hemisphere 010700-006R 19" 1280x1024 70Hz Southern hemisphere Note: 1280x1024 "F" graphics cards support 68Hz and 70Hz by jumper selection. (A 70Hz monitor will run at 68Hz, but the image will be slightly narrower than the screen display limits.) 15" 1024x800 19" 1024x800 19" 1280x1024 -------------- ------------ ----------------- Size 16" 20" 20" (15" diagonal (19" d.m.) (19" d.m.) measure) CRT type Matsushita Matsushita Matsushita 38JFG36X/B 48JFJ50X/B J2P36X Dot trio pitch 0.31mm 0.32mm 0.26mm Phosphor Medium Medium Medium short persistance P22 persistance P22 persistance P22 Electron gun: Precision inline Convergence: Self convergence Deflection angle: 90 degrees Deflection yoke: Matsushita Type SST Following specifications apply to the 15" and 19" 1024x800 monitors: Resolution 1024x800 (noninterlaced) Scanning frequency range Horizontal 50.2 kHz (+/- 500Hz) Vertical 47 to 80 Hz Blanking time Horozontal 4.713 usec maximum Vertical 828.83 usec max (15") 831 usec max (19") Retrace time Horozontal 3.713 usec max Vertical 600 usec max Video amplifier bandwidth +/- 3dB form 50Hz to 70MHz minimum pulse rise and fall time 5 nanosec (max) measured from 10% to 90% differential tilt not more than 3% on blanking waveforms video polarity Positive for Peak Luminance of the CRT video gain no perceptible change at any brightness setting when a 15nsec pixel is written adjacent to a 60nsec bar Degauss duration < 15 sec type Automatic at power on X-Ray radiation < 0.5 MR/H Horozontal frequency Duration: 19.794 usec (50.519 kHz) front porch 0.942 usec sync 1.88 usec back porch 1.88 usec blanking 4.71 usec display area 15.084 usec Vertical frequency Duration: 16.67 usec (60.0 kHz) front porch 79.176 usec sync 79.176 usec back porch 673.0 usec blanking 828.83 usec (15") 831 usec (19") display area 15.841 usec (15") 15.839 usec (19") Note: Apollo 1024x800 color graphics boards use a horozontal frequency of 50.519 kHz, vertical frequency of 60Hz usec = microseconds Russell. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Russell Ayling | Internet : rayling@xwdev.pandc.rta.oz.au Roads and Traffic Authority | Phone : + 61 2 218 6945 260 Elizabeth Street | FAX : + 61 2 218 6099 Surry Hills, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2010 | From eba.eb.ele.tue.nl!svin09.info.win.tue.nl!tuegate.tue.nl!sun4nl!mcsun!uunet!news!agphx.agcs.com!not-for-mail Mon Jul 26 11:59:13 EET 1993 Article: 10503 of comp.sys.apollo Path: eba.eb.ele.tue.nl!svin09.info.win.tue.nl!tuegate.tue.nl!sun4nl!mcsun!uunet!news!agphx.agcs.com!not-for-mail From: thomasm@agcs.com (Mike Thomas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Problems with old bw-Monitor Date: 15 Jul 1993 11:00:04 -0700 Organization: gte Lines: 262 Message-ID: <2245v4$1si@en_prise.agcs.com> References: <POTT.93Jul15115749@hermes.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.131.70.80 >Hi all, > >we have some problems with our monitors (bw, 1280x1024, 19'', 4-5 years old). >One of the interlaced frames is shifted to the right and the other >frame is shifted to the left, so that these monitors can't be used. >It seemed that the circuit for the syncronisation is damaged, but >there is no way to get an circuit-diagram from HP (They would repair >them for 1000 bucks). > >Had someone the same problems with these monitors and can give me a >hint where to look or does someone know where to get a circuit-diagram >(it is said that these monitors are made by Hitachi or Sony)? > >Thanks, > Ruediger The black and white displays were built by PHILIPS in Canada. The plant there has been shut down, when I last enquired with Philips re: purchasing spare parts, I was informed that they did not want to support anymore new customers for this product line. Philips makes the new HP b/w monitors too, but it looks as if everything is manufactured in Taiwan. The following is a list of technical info for the color and monochrome monitors, also includes information on common monchrome monitor repairs. Color Monitor CRT Specifications Item 15 inch 19 in. (1024x800) 19 in. (1280x1024) -------- ----------------- ------------------- ------------------ Size 16in. 15in.diag 20in. 19in.diag 20in. 19in.diag Gun Precision inline Precision inline Precision inline Convergence Self-convergence Self-convergence Self-convergence Deflect ang 90 degrees 90 degrees 90 degrees pitch .31 mm .32 mm .26 mm Phosphor Med persist P22 Med persist P22 Med persist P22 CRT Type Matsushita Matsushita Matsushita J2P36X 38JFG36X/B 48JFJ50X/B Yoke Matsushita SST Matsushita SST Matsushita SST ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1024x800 Color monitor performance specifications Resolution 1024x800 noninterlaced Scanning frequency range Horiz 50.2 kHz +/-500Hz Vert 47 to 80 Hz Blanking time Horiz 4.713 usec max Vert 828.83 usec max (15in.) 831 usec max (19in.) Retrace time Horiz 3.713 usec max Vert 600 usec max Video amplifier Bandwidth +/- 3 dB from 50 Hz to 70 MHz minimum Pulse rise/fall 5 nanosecs max measured from 10%/90% Differential tilt Not more than 3% on blanking waveforms Video polarity Positive for Peak Lumiance of CRT Video gain No perceptable difference at any brightness setting when a 15-nano sec pixel is written adjacent to a 60-nano sec bar. X-Ray radiation Less than 0.5 MR/H Horizontal Frequency duration 19.794 usec., Frequency = 50.519 kHz Horizontal front porch - 0.942 usec. Horizontal Sync - 1.88 usec. Horizontal back porch - 1.88 usec. Horizontal blanking - 4.71 usec. Horizontal Display Area - 15.084 usec. Vertical Frequency duration 16.67msec., Frequency = 60.0 Hz Vertical front porch - 79.176 usec. Vertical Sync - 79.176 usec. Vertical back porch - 673.0 usec Vertical blanking - 828.83 usec (15in.) 831 usec (19in.) Vertical display area - 15.841 msec (15in.) 15.839 msec (19in.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1280x1024 Color monitor performance specifications Resolution - 1280 x 1024 noninterlaced Scanning frequency range - Horizontal 73.7 kHz +/- 500 Hz Vertical 68.24 Hz Blanking time - Horizontal 3.328 usec max. Vertical 759.0 usec. max. Retrace time - Horizontal 2.5 usec max Vertical 395 usec max Video amplifier - Bandwidth +/- 3dB from 50 Hz to 170MHz Pulse rise/fall 2.7 nanosec. max measured from 10%/90% Differntial tilt Not more than 3% on blanking waveforms Video gain linearity - Linear analog amplifier is capable of resolving a min. of 32 shades of gray from black to white. X-Ray radiation - Less than 0.5 MR/H Pixel rate - 124.996 MHz Pixel period - 8.000256 nsec. Aspect Ration 5/4 Horizontally displayed pixels - 1280 Vertically displayed lines - 1024 Horizontal frequency - 73.702 kHz Horizontal period - 13.568 usec., pixels 1696 Horizontal front porch - 0.256 usec., pixels 32 Horizontal sync - 1.536 usec., pixels 192 Horizontal back porch - 1.536 usec., pixels 192 Horizontal blanking - 3.328 usec., pixels 416 Horizontal display area - 10.240 usec., pixels 1280 Vertical fields per frame (noninterlaced) - 1 Vertical field frequency - 68.24 Hz Vertical field period - 68.24 msec, lines 1080 Vertical front porch - 40.7 usec, lines 3 Vertical sync - 40.7 usec, lines 3 Vertical back porch - 678 usec., lines 50 Vertical blanking - 759 usec, lines 56 Vertical display area - 13.893 msec, lines 1024 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19 inch Monochrome monitor specifications Resolution - 1280 x 1024 noninterlaced Active video time - Horizontal 10.857 usec. Vertical 15.009 msec. Blanking time - Horizontal 3.8 usec. Vertical 616 usec. Front porch - Horizontal 407 nsec. Vertical 58.6 usec. Back porch - Horizontal 1.9 usec Vertical 498 usec. Sync pulse - Horizontal 1.49 usec. Vertical 58.6 usec. Pixel time - 8.47 nsec. Maximum light output - 30 +/- FLB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monochrome display cable pin outs: Pin 1 - ECL Video Pin 2 - No connection Pin 3 - Horizontal sync Pin 4 - Vertical sync Pin 5 - No connection Pin 6 - ECL Video Pin 7 - Video Shield Pin 8 - Horizontal Sync Return Pin 9 - Outer Shield Chassis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike's handy-dandy guide for repairing mono monitor problems: 1. Screen wrap problem or the horizontal width has grown too large and the screen appears to be wrapping back around on itself. Replace C205 and C206 on deflection board, 10 ufd/50V, electrolytic caps. (Actually only one of these is causing the problem, but I'm too lazy--change both) Cost: $0.12 per cap. 2. Screen is shrinking from both sides. Change C161, 100 ufd/63V, electrolytic cap near bottom right of deflection board. Cost: $1.00. 3. Characters seem to be wiggling or vibrating. Change C101, 10 ufd/50V, electrolytic cap, upper left quarter of deflection board. Cost: $0.12. 4. On all white displays or on white backgrounds there appear bright horizontal streaks. Replaced C315, 100 ufd/25V, electrolytic cap, just below C101. Cost: $0.75. 5. Top of display appears to losing a few lines of text sort of gradually getting darker on top few lines. Replace C318, 4.7 ufd/100V, electro- lytic cap located left center on deflection board. Cost: $1.00. 6. Display is too large vertically and cannot adjust in. Replace C310, 0.01 ufd/63V, P.S. cap, aluminum colored just above IC301. 7. If the display is too dim and after adjusting brightness it is out- of-focus, you can try the focus adjustment, but if that doesn't really work well enough you will need to replace the CRT. This is not that difficult, takes about 45 minutes, costs: $125.00. I use the on-line diagnostic "/systest/grtest" to perform focus adjustments. Just enter ad (adjustments) at the grtest prompt and select test 13. Save all of the magnets from any scrapped monitor yokes, you'll need them to adjust display geometry with the new CRT's. 8. Also save your old flyback transformers on any scrapped displays, flybacks cause several different problems: Squeals no picture and a 'jittery' display are both flyback problems. The key to flyback jitter is when the display shrinks or jerks both top, bottom and both sides simutaneously. Another flyback problem is a slow expansion and contraction of the display, some of my customers tell me that it's 'breathing'. 9. As far as adjusting focus goes, the pot labeled 'DYN FOC HOR' adjusts the focus on the far right and left side of the screen. It also balances the focus between these sides, so be sure to check both left and right sides when adjusting this pot. The pot labeled 'DYN FOC VERT' just adjusts the focus for the top and bottom of the display. I usually can't get perfect focus on the very top of the display, especially at this site where the brightness has to be turned up especially high. If no matter what you do with the focus pots does not work, you might try playing with the 'focus phase' adj. Focus phase is controlled by the coil with the adjustable core in the center of the board. The way I play with it is to turn the main focus pot, R431, to midrange and do the same for the two dynamic focus pots. I then adjust focus phase for good focus in the center of the display, then go through the normal focus adjustments, i.e. turn R431 for best focus overall then adjust dynamic for sides and top and bottom. All of these tips apply only for the 8399-XXX series of monitors. EXERCISE CAUTION WHEN WORKING ON MONITORS, THE MONO MONITOR HAS 18KV GOING TO THE CRT. Let your techs show you the ropes on monitor repairs, if you're going to be messing around with any live equipment. Be especially careful when doing focus adjustments, aside from personal risk you can smoke your board. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DN2500 Monochrome monitor performance specifications: Resolution - 1280 x 1024 noninterlaced Active video time - Horizontal 10.240 usec. Vertical 13.63 msec. Blanking time - Horizontal 3.072 usec. Vertical 639.0 usec. Front porch - Horizontal 0.256 usec Vertical 39.94 usec Back porch - Horizontal 1.536 usec. Vertical 559.0 usec. Sync pulse - Horizontal 1.280 usec. Vertical 39.94 usec Pixel time - 8.00 nsec. Hope this helps, Mike Thomas